From: adunkin@sdf.lonestar.org (Alan Dunkin) Subject: UFOHACK.TXT To: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:35:45 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] UFOs and Hackers NOTE: The following was taken from Compuer underground Digest (CuD) issue #5.13, dated 02/14/93. The editors are Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer. When it was received I have no idea if the sender actually put it on the net someplace, or if it was mailed. However, I did not see this file at the archives on ftp.rutgers.edu any place, so I am uploading it now. Comments will follow afterwards. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 01:15:50 PST From: Ann_Dromeda@orion.nebula.com Subject: File 4--"Hackers" take on the UFOs? ((MODERATORS' COMMENT: We've read a bit of discussion about UFOs, "hackers," and guerilla investigators. Whether myth or reality, the discussions represent a segment of computer culture that others might find interesting. So, we run the following as a reflection of one segment of the culture that, even if myth, raises that age-old question: Is it live, or is it memorex?)). Rumors have begun to surface about a group of hackers who were involved in a project to uncover information regarding the existence of UFOs. The most public example pertaining to this alleged project was seen on Dateline NBC on the screen of the mystery hacker "Quentin." The story goes that this group of individuals decided to put their skills to work on a project that, if successful, would legitimize the hacking process by uncovering information on what has been called the greatest cover-up in the history of the world. Milnet TAC ID cards were obtained through military officials sympathetic to the cause. Several sites and networks were targeted that had in the past been linked to UFO activity. These were sites like the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Sandia Labs, TRW Space Research, American Institute of Physics, and various other educational, government and military sites. The rumors also emphasize that several sites had what these individuals called "particularly heavy security." Within several seconds after connection had been established, system administrators of sites used in this project were contacted. Further rumors state that there was information regarding a propulsion system designed utilizing what is termed "corona discharge" being analyzed at one site. The most sinister of all rumors states that one particular participant who was allegedly deeply immersed in TRWs internal network has not been heard from since uncovering data regarding a saucer being housed at one of their Southern California installations. Believe what you will about the reality of this project. Much will be dismissed as hacker lore, but within the core of every rumor lies a grain of truth. Are we being lied to? Why is this information still classified by the NSA? What are they hiding from us behind a maze of security? Will we continue to stand idly by and let an uncaring and deliberately evasive government shield us from what may be the most important, and potential dangerous news to ever surface? Information wants to be free, and only a concerted group effort can make this happen. How much do you really want to know about what is really going on? What follows is information that has been released regarding this project... ++++++++++++++++++++++++ PROJECT ALF-1 A Planetary Effort TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET These are the raw data. Where comments are appropriate, they will be included. The data will be grouped together with dates, names etc. to make correlations easier. There are countless references to the aliens, their down space craft and what the Government is doing with them. If, as is supposed, the research on the craft and the 'ufonauts' continues today, then undoubtedly there are computer records, somewhere. I. Searching the Skies; Tripping the Electronic Fence around the USA. US Space Command Space Surveillance Center, Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado Springs, Box Nine (Electronic Surveillance Room) (This is where they search for and track UFO activity.) U.S. Naval Space Surveillance System, Dahlgreen, Virginia, (Main computer), Lake Kickapoo, Texas (listening post): Search for 'Flash Traffic' Commander Sheila Mondran CINC-NORAD Space Detection and Tracking System Malabar, Florida 'Teal Amber' search National Military Command Center - Pentagon (These are the areas where UFO activity is tracked. There is a radar shield around the country that is 'tripped' by UFO's. All tracking and F14 scrambling is done through this system.) II. The Second Cover Up Defense Intelligence Agency Directorate for Management and Operations Project Aquarius (in conjunction with SRI) Colonel Harold E. Phillips, Army (where/what Feb. 1987) UFO Working Group, (formed Dec 1987) Major General James Pfautz, USAF, Ret. (March 87) US Army experiments -(Monroe Institute, Faber, VA) Major General Albert Stubblebine Capt. Guy Kirkwood, (thousands of feet of film of UFO's catalogued and on record somewhere.) The UFO Working Group was formed because one arm of the Govt doesn't know what the other is doing.) III. National Security NSA NAtional Security Agency, Dundee Society (Super secret elite who have worked on UFO's.) NSA - Research and Engineering Division NSA - Intercept Equipment Division Kirtland Force Base, Office of Special Investigations, Project Beta. 1979-83-? (Sandia Labs are here.) Paul Bennewitz Project Blue Project Blue Book (NSA computers do analysis for Pentagon.) IV. More Secret Players NASA, Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA NASA Ames Research Center, Moffet Field Naval Base SETI State Dept. Office of Advanced Technology Any Astronauts from Mercury, Gemini and Apollo CIA - Office of Scientific Investigation CIA - Domestic Collection Division (NASA has known about UFO's since the astronauts saw and photoed them. Records somewhere.) V. Dealing with the Secret MJ-12 (1952) Majectic 12 Operation Majestic 12 MAJIC-12 Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Dr. Vannevar Bush Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Dr. Donald Menzel Dr. Lloyd Berkner General Robt. Montague Sidney Souers Gordon Gray General Hoyt Vandenberg Sect State James Forrestal General Nathan Twining Pres. Truman Pres. Eisenhower (One of the biggest secrets ever.) Nevada Desert, Area 51, S4 (houses UFO's) (Robert Lazar talked!) 9 space ships on storage. Propulsion by corona discharge. (Area 51 is the most protected base on the planet.) VI. ROSWELL, NM Crashes Mac Brazel (farmer) Major Jesse A. Marcel 509th. Bomber Group Lewis Rickett, CIC Officer Colonel William Blanchard Gerald Anderson, witness to crash and aliens Wright Patterson Air Force Base, (parts lists of UFO's catalogued; autopsies on record) (Bodies in underground facility) Foreign Technology Building USAAF (United States Army Air Force reports: "Early Automation" Muroc, CA (Base with UFO's for study) (1 saucer with 4 aliens. They were transported to Wright and then saved, catalogued and autopsied.) VII. THOSE ON GOVT SHIT LIST (People who have gotten close.) Robert Lazar Major Donald Keyhoe William Moore Stanton Friedman Jaime Shandera Whitley Streiber Timothy Goode, UK Other UFO Crashes Del Rio, TX 12/50, Colonel Robert Willingham Las Vegas, 4/18/62 Kecksburg, PA 12/9/65 VIII. International Belgian Air Force. (They are going public and have records. Press conference held 7/12/91.) Australian Air Force UK; GCHQ British Air Force Belgium: NATO Radar Stations IX. UFO Civilian Groups. (What do they really know?) NICAP, National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (private company.) APRO, Tucson, AZ (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, private company.) MUFON Mutual UFO Network X. GENERAL Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947 Cattle and Sheep Mutilations General and Pres. Eisenhower, (private files and library) President Truman Wright Field or Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, (Air Force Foreign Technology Division) USAF Project Saint USAF Project Gemini Project Moon Dust Project Sign Project Grudge General Hoyt Vandenberg (1940-1960) Air Force Regulation 200-2 (8/12/54) Holloman AFB, NM Roswell, NM July 7, 1947 XI. Possible Searches Presidential Libraries Old USAAF, (United States Army Air Force) NASA Astronaut Frank Borman, Gemini 7, pictures of UFO Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, saw UFO's on moon. Colonel Gordon Cooper saw a bunch of them James McDivitt, 6/66 United Nations NATO; General Lionel Max Chassin, French Air Force Star Wars, United Kingdom, 23 scientists killed in 6 years. Gulf Breeze, FL Additional UFO records at NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI Good Searching. +++++++++++++++++ Project ->Green Cheese<- Data Base ++++++++++++++++++ Holloman AFB Location: New Mexico. Preconceived landing 15 years ago. DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 132.5.0.0 : HOLLOMAN : GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.9.0.74, 132.5.0.1 : HOLLOMAN-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: EGP,IP/GW : HOST : 26.10.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-TG.AF.MIL : VAX-8650 : VMS : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP SMTP : HOST : 26.6.0.74 : HOLLOMAN-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VSOS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP, TCP/SMTP : Host: DDNVAX2.6585TG.AF.MIL 156.6.1.2 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Kirtland Air Force Base Office Of Special Investigations. Sandia Labs are here. Also part of NSA Intercept Equipment Division. Key Words/names: ++++++++ Sandia Labs Project Beta (1979-83-?) Paul Bennewitz Project Blue Project Blue Book DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 131.23.0.0 : KIRTLAND-NET : NET : 132.62.0.0 : KIRTLAND2 : GATEWAY : 26.17.0.48, 131.23.0.1 : KIRTLAND2-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.18.0.87, 132.62.0.1 : KIRTLAND1-GW.AF.MIL,KIRTLAND1606ABW-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS : : EGP,IP/GW : HOST : 26.0.0.48 : KIRTLAND.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.87 : KIRTLAND2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.6.0.87 : KIRTLAND-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS300 : VS :: +++++++++++++++++++++++ NASA What can I say about NASA that you couldn't guess for yourself.... (Except that the following sights are SPECIFIC NASA sights, not just randomly suspected sights). DDN locations: +++++++ Fort Irwin, Barstow, CA: +++++++++ NET : 134.66.0.0 : IRWIN : NET : 144.146.0.0 : FTIRWIN1 : NET : 144.147.0.0 : FTIRWIN2 : GATEWAY : 26.24.0.85, 26.7.0.230, 144.146.0.1, 144.147.0.0 : FTIRWIN-GW1.ARMY.MIL : CISCO-GATEWAY : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.14.0.39 : IRWIN-ASBN.ARMY.MIL : NCR-COMTEN-3650 : COS2 :: HOST : 26.13.0.85 : FTIRWIN-AMEDD.ARMY.MIL : ATT-3B2-600G : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : HOST : 26.14.0.85 : FTIRWIN-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : DATAPOINT-8605 : RMS :: HOST : 26.15.0.85 : IRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL,FTIRWIN-EMH1.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000 : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : Moffet Field Naval Base (Ames Research Center): +++++++++++++++++++++ GATEWAY : 26.20.0.16, 192.52.195.1 : MOFFETT-FLD-MB.DDN.MIL,AMES-MB.DDN.MIL : C/70 : CHRYSALIS : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.0.0.16 : MOFFETT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : +++++++++++++++++++++++ Pentagon (National Military Command Center) One of many places in charge of tracking UFO activity. Possible DDN sights: +++++++ GATEWAY : 26.9.0.26, 134.205.123.140 : PENTAGON-GW.HQ.AF.MIL : CISCO-AGS : : EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.25.0.26, 131.8.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW.AF.MIL,HQUSAFNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 : UNIX : IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-GW.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 : UNIX : EGP,IP/GW : GATEWAY : 26.31.0.247, 26.16.0.26, 141.116.0.1 : PENTAGON-GW1.ARMY.MIL : CISCO : CISCO : IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.0.0.26 : PENTAGON.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.24.0.26 : OPSNET-PENTAGON.AF.MIL : VAX-8500 : VMS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.10.0.76, 192.31.75.235 : PENTAGON-BCN.ARMY.MIL : SUN-360 : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/TELNET : HOST : 26.0.0.247 : PENTAGON2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.7.0.247 : PENTAGON-AMSNET.ARMY.MIL : AMDAHL : MVS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP : HOST : 26.14.0.247 : NSSC-PENTAGON.NAVY.MIL : ALTOS-3068A : UNIX : TCP/FTP,TCP/TELNET,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.18.0.247 : PENTAGON-EMH4.ARMY.MIL : SPERRY-5000/80 : UNIX : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : HOST : 26.26.0.247, 192.31.75.1 : PENTAGON-AI.ARMY.MIL : SUN-3/160 : UNIX : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP,TCP/FINGER : +++++++++++++++++++++++ Raddaman Location of infamous building 18a. Suspected saucers and others? DDN location, yet unknown. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SECI ? DDN Locations: +++++++ NET : 192.108.216.0 : ARC-SETI-NET : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Utah Locations: GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : GATEWAY : 26.18.0.20, 131.27.0.1 : HILL-GW.AF.MIL,HILLAFBNET-GW.AF.MIL : CISCO-MGS :: IP/GW,EGP : HOST : 26.5.0.20 : HILL.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.99 : HILL2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.12.0.99 : HILL-AM1.AF.MIL : WANG-VS100 : VS : TCP/TELNET,TCP/FTP,TCP/SMTP : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wright Patterson AFB Catalogued UFO parts list. Autopsies on record. Bodies located in underground facility of Foreign Technology Building. DDN Locations: +++++++ HOST : 26.0.0.47 : WRIGHTPAT.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.8.0.123 : WRIGHTPAT2.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.0.0.124 : WRIGHTPAT3.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : HOST : 26.3.0.170 : WAINWRIGHT-IGNET.ARMY.MIL : CONVERGENT-TECH-CN-100 : CTOS :: HOST : 26.0.0.176 : WRIGHTPAT4.MT.DDN.MIL : C/30 : TAC : TCP,ICMP : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nevada: NET : 131.216.0.0 : NEVADA : ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Random Suspected Nets: WIN: Top Secret Network. All coordinator's have last name Win. NET : 141.8.0.0 : DFN-WIN8 : NET : 141.9.0.0 : DFN-WIN9 : NET : 141.10.0.0 : DFN-WIN10 : NET : 141.15.0.0 : DFN-WIN15 : NET : 141.25.0.0 : DFN-WIN25 : NET : 141.26.0.0 : DFN-WIN26 : NET : 141.28.0.0 : DFN-WIN28 : NET : 141.57.0.0 : DFN-WIN57 : NET : 141.58.0.0 : DFN-WIN58 : NET : 141.59.0.0 : DFN-WIN59 : NET : 141.60.0.0 : DFN-WIN60 : NET : 141.61.0.0 : DFN-WIN61 : NET : 141.62.0.0 : DFN-WIN62 : NET : 141.63.0.0 : DFN-WIN63 : NET : 141.64.0.0 : DFN-WIN64 : NET : 141.65.0.0 : DFN-WIN65 : NET : 141.66.0.0 : DFN-WIN66 : NET : 141.67.0.0 : DFN-WIN67 : NET : 141.68.0.0 : DFN-WIN68 : NET : 141.69.0.0 : DFN-WIN69 : NET : 141.70.0.0 : DFN-WIN70 : NET : 141.71.0.0 : DFN-WIN71 : NET : 141.72.0.0 : DFN-WIN72 : NET : 141.73.0.0 : DFN-WIN73 : NET : 141.74.0.0 : DFN-WIN74 : NET : 141.75.0.0 : DFN-WIN75 : NET : 141.76.0.0 : DFN-WIN76 : NET : 141.77.0.0 : DFN-WIN77 : NET : 141.78.0.0 : DFN-WIN78 : NET : 141.79.0.0 : DFN-WIN79 : NET : 141.80.0.0 : DFN-WIN80 : NET : 141.81.0.0 : DFN-WIN81 : NET : 141.82.0.0 : DFN-WIN82 : NET : 141.83.0.0 : DFN-WIN83 : NET : 141.84.0.0 : DFN-WIN84 : NET : 141.85.0.0 : DFN-WIN85 : NET : 141.86.0.0 : DFN-WIN86 : NET : 141.87.0.0 : DFN-WIN87 : NET : 141.88.0.0 : DFN-WIN88 : NET : 141.89.0.0 : DFN-WIN89 : NET : 141.90.0.0 : DFN-WIN90 : NET : 141.91.0.0 : DFN-WIN91 : NET : 141.92.0.0 : DFN-WIN92 : NET : 141.93.0.0 : DFN-WIN93 : NET : 141.94.0.0 : DFN-WIN94 : NET : 141.95.0.0 : DFN-WIN95 : NET : 141.96.0.0 : DFN-WIN96 : NET : 141.97.0.0 : DFN-WIN97 : NET : 141.98.0.0 : DFN-WIN98 : NET : 141.99.0.0 : DFN-WIN99 : NET : 188.1.0.0 : WIN-IP : NET : 192.80.90.0 : WINDATA : +++++++++++++++ Scinet: Sensitive Compartmented Information Network NET : 192.12.188.0 : BU-SCINET : +++++++++++++++ Disnet: Defense Integrated Secure Network. Composed of SCINET, WINCS ([World Wide Military and Command Control System] Intercomputer Network Communication Subsystem), and Secretnet(WIN). NET : 22.0.0.0 : DISNET : ------------------------------ The obvious question that comes to my mind is the real purpose behind this alleged "document" made by secret hackers accessing government systems, looking for UFO files. Was the document put together by the hackers themselves through preliminary searches, or by somebody reading up on the paranet archives thoroughly and writing down any relevant information? Let us suppose for a moment that the information presented here is real, and that these so-called hackers actually accessed US military computers around the nation, and managed to grab this stuff. If so, then several current ideas about certain UFO authors are contradicted and in question. If the William Moore/Stanton Friedman/Jamie Shandera involvement with the MJ-12 documents are forgeries, meant to feed disinformation to the public, then why are they on the government shit list? If it was just Moore who was an alleged "government disinformation agent", and the other two were not, why include his name? Just to say he wasn't? This just points to more disinformation. If the MJ-12 documents released by Moore ARE true, then why include Shandera on the "shit list"? Previously, Shandera had absolutely nothing to do with UFOs or UFOlogy, and [as far as I know] nothing to do with it since the papers were released. Shandera is a television producer in California and just happened to know Moore. Furthermore, wouldn't the person who "leaked" this information to Moore be at the top of the "shit list" rather than Moore? Bob Lazar is, and he leaks a lot. Why are only public names we already know on the government shit list, which is secret anyway? There is something amiss here. The first two names are more plausable realistically. Major Donald Keyhoe got his plug pulled on national television about UFOs. If Robert Lazar isn't the hoax of the last couple of years, then his name makes sense also. The last name on the list, Timothy Goode, probably one of the leading UFOlogists in the UK, is probable. However, if he is on the "government shit list", why not other known and predominant UFOlogists in THIS country? Why not Michael Corbin and Don Allen, just to name a few? If we include the UK in all of this, why not add Jenny Randles, too? Finally, the last name is very skeptical. If this was a real document collected from real government computers, why would Whitley Streiber's name be on it? Many in the UFO community consider him a certifiable nut-case and a fraud. He says the same about UFOlogists. If the guy really is crazy--his books about aliens just keep getting weirder and weirder--then the government would have no plausable argument for putting him on the list. Also, the list only gives 3 different UFO crashes other than Roswell. Does that mean no other UFO's ever came down, or just that there's no information? Please note that no mention of abductions are made. Now, let's take the flip-side. The document was not precured by a group of LOD-type hackers, but by one or several people who put this information together from various sources. I return to my original question--why? If it is a disinformation paper, why go through the trouble of putting all of this together, typing up this entire document, but filled with things that most of us already knew in advance. If it was not a government- written document, but outsiders, the paper really serves no purpose. However, there are a few new bits of information that I had not previously known before which may or may not effect the credibility of the document. I do not pretend to know everything about UFOs or documents relating to them, and the information presented in the file may or may not be new to your eyes--some of it was to mine. For instance, I have never heard of the saucers out in Area 51 using a "corona discharge" propulsion system. I might have missed the term some- place, but if it is connected I would like to know so I could correct myself. If NORAD and SPACECOM track UFOs, why scramble F-14s for interception? Why not a high-altitude fighter, such as an F-15, which has more land-based capability then a naval fighter? The seemingly shocking line, "Robert Lazar talked!" implies it was a new found revelation. Yes, he did talk--a couple of years ago. Sandia labs is a revelation--I have never heard it mentioned before. Nor the related Project Beta. In conclusion, this whole document appears to be an outline of UFO and government activity for the past forty-five years or so. It looks to be authentic in the way that much time has gone into it, the author appears to have a fair knowledge of UFOlogy. I have explained previously the immediate problems I see. The premise behind these UFO hackers is a good one, but no real proof exists that they actually did break into Defense Department systems. If we hear nothing else from these hackers, or from the sender, we may conclude that the posting was merely informational and nothing more than that. However, if there are constant revisions to these projects, what are we to think? Where do we go from here? Finally, what are these supposed hackers really doing for the UFO community? Helping solve the mysteries, or just further damaging it's already stained reputation? If the information was collected from government installations then these hackers are violating law by breaking into these systems. The idea that they want to "legitimize the hacking process" through illegal actions is a contradiction in itself. There is no legitimate reason why people snort coke or shoot complete strangers for their Air Jordans. If the hackers use their talents for the "good" of the UFO community and the world, who will ultimately reep the benefits of this ill wind? --- Alan Dunkin (adunkin@sdf.lonestar.org)