From: errol.bruce-knapp@canrem.com (Errol Bruce-Knapp) Subject: Oechsler Rebutal 01/06 Date: 23 Apr 94 11:40:00 GMT Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) The following is posted for your information. It is interesting to note that Oechsler wrote it on April 13, 1994 and seems to have had difficulty in getting it posted. Could it be that Oechsler is: a) modem illiterate b) running out of Net friends c) pissing too many people off, or d) all three of the above? My reason for 'helping Oechsler out'? He needs help in drawing the Carp Crap Case to a swift and conclusive close. Many of us who have followed his meteoric plummett from self-styled 'wunderkindt' Investigative/Analyst these past few years reading his ridiculous reports in UFO magazines, watching and listening to his absurdly inept piecing together of 'facts' on tv, video and radio, want Oechsler's patent nonsense to stop. This man with his money making scheme is a menace to ufology. He has caused many genuine investigators with common sense to pour a staggering number of hours and dollars into a case that was totally ridiculous from its very beginnings in 1989. Oechsler has consistantly expanded his 'facts' with each recounting of the Carp Case. He's embelished 'reports', enlarged numbers, exagerated peoples titles. 'Facts' pour out of his mouth, flow from his fingers non-stop, giving the listener, viewer or reader no pause for reflection. He hides the truth behind an ability to articulate almost as quickly as he can think. He lists his 'credentials' wherever and whenever he can, in an attempt to impress people with his background, his expertise and his contacts. "My Phd.'s bigger than yours, my thousands of hours in NASA, radio, and ufology are more beneficial than yours, my contacts are more solid than yours!" On the one hand he touts Carp as the biggest most amazing ufo incident ever, complete with 'authenticated' video footage, a 'Canadian Government Official' for a 'witness', polygraph 'tests', a string of ever growing Lab 'reports' that 'prove' trace elements are present in 'hundreds' of samples, and in the next breath he's telling us that perhaps it's a hoax!!!! "But here, tell you what, you send me a bunch-o-bux and I'll send you all the information I've got and you can decide for yourself." An extensive report on the investigation of the Carp Caper will be published shortly - the real facts are convoluted and involve several different hoaxes. Consequently, it's taking longer than anticipated to get it _all_ down on paper. Oechsler is apparently becoming a little anxious, feeling the need to finally start to come to his own defence on the Nets by issuing the following 'Rebuttal' to an over-anxious young Montrealer's premature posting. Gentle reader, I present 'Oechsler's Traveling Medicine Show'.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BoB Oechsler Investigations Analyst 136 Oakwood Road Ph: (410)-798-1503 Edgewater MD 21037 Fax (410)-956-3570 CARP SURVIVES DEBUNKING ATTEMPT BoB Oechsler RE: CARP: FINAL WORD O4 APR/AVR 94 Leblanc: O.C.I.P.E.. Background: In order to qualify my response to the rather authoritative commentary published recently by Benjamin Leblanc (Co-director of O.C.I.P.E. near Montreal), it will be necessary to provide some insight into my philosophy on analysis and reporting of UFO case investigations. First let me establish some basis for authority regarding my qualifications in submitting this report, I have no idea what Mr. Leblanc's qualifications may be as he failed to report any such information in his submittal - CARP: FINAL WORD. My active involvement in the research and investigation into the UFO phenomenon dates back fourteen years, five years in which I served as the host of what became a nationwide radio broadcast called: UFOs Today. Anyone who spends 250 hours a year chatting over the telephone with UFO specialists and witnesses is bound to get an incredible education. Add to that another 1,000 hours a year looking at UFO photos and videos in the company of Ph.D. level technologists and you've got a good basis for fundamental analysis training. When you couple those credits with several weeks a year of field investigations, diplomatic and intelligence agency contacts, former NASA engineering credentials, and acclaim as a robotic innovator, you have BoB Oechsler, Investigations Analyst. Biographical Information sheet available via fax With regard to the CARP / Guardian Case Investigation, I have a particular level of expertise that warrants elucidation under these specific circumstances. My involvement commenced with the receipt of a video tape of a landed craft and some crude, but elaborate, manufactured documents detailing what is on the video and expressing ideological concerns arising out of the history of alien events reported locally over two decades. The package arrived postmarked from Ottawa with no return address and only the designation Guardian on the videotape accompanied by a fingerprint. I researched the history of previous claims by the same source which detailed events in the West Carleton township area just 30 miles west of Ottawa, Ontario. The town of Carp is located several miles to the north of the area where the landing reportedly occurred on August 18, 1991. Since beginning the Guardian video analyses process in February of 1992, I have visited the Ottawa area conducting field investigations and research on at least nine occasions. I have invested almost three months time on location and thousands of dollars in expenses which include costly electron scanning microscope and x-ray analyses of contamination and control field samples collected at the landing site. Over the course of my two years of investigation into the mysterious Guardian Case, I have consulted on no less than three major network television broadcasts on the case in question and have included in my investigation three top Canadian Government Agencies, RCMP Federal Investigations Unit included. My investigation has involved more Ph.D.. level scientists in varied disciplines that any other case in civilian history to my knowledge. While I feel confident in certain findings and assessments derived from these efforts, it would be premature and inappropriate for me to offer a _Final_ conclusion. I cannot even eliminate with 100% certainty that the whole thing was an elaborate fabrication, although I believe it would be an extremely remote possibility. RCMP GRC - INVESTIGATION REPORT: (Commentary) The investigation conducted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Federal Investigations Unit was the basis of the report recently filed by Mr. Leblanc of O.C.I.P.E (Organizations de Compilation et d'information sur les Phenonomenes Etranges). Since the Guardian investigation is a significantly compelling one, I'll confine this rebuttal to the issues raised in Mr. Leblanc's report with specific attention to the RCMP investigation cited. Readers can write to the referenced address for more detailed information on my investigation regarding the Guardian Case. Although I was intimately involved in the RCMP Investigation following a complaint filed by a resident concerned about the low level helicopter flights in the area and perplexed about the reports of a UFO landing nearby, the RCMP refused my written request for a copy of their final report citing internal regulations. Therefore in spite of Mr. Leblanc's arrogant perplexity at my failure to publish the RCMP report, this was the first time I've actually seen it. Nonetheless, I was familiar with much of the contents and am aware of the identities of most of those interviewed along with their comments. Consequently, I am fully prepared to respond to the arguments raised. The primary issues raised in the RCMP Investigation centered on the reports of potentially illegal helicopter air traffic operations in West Carleton township. As a result of my investigation on the same issue with the Department of National Defence (DND), the RCMP contacted me regarding my investigation into the videotape of a reported landing of an unusual aircraft on private property. That's how the UFO issue got pulled into the investigation. When I was contacted by RCMP Constable Dennis De Haitre, he was interested in what information I might have to help in his investigation. I agreed to participate on an information exchange basis which was honored in principle. Cst. De Haitre made it clear to me that his investigation was on thin ice due to adverse public relations concerns regarding the investigation of a reported UFO incident. I indicated to him that my investigation was initiated with the conviction that the event most probably was some sort of military operation. There appeared to be enough evidence in the video to detect military pyrotechnic flare residue at the landing site. The laboratory results proved negative on required detectable elements and most likely eliminated military involvement. Thus began the scramble at RCMP HQ to come up with a viable explanation for the craft in the Guardian video, namely a helicopter. It seemed to be the optimum solution for them since there were so many reports of helicopters in the area, yet the DND report concluded the object in the video and the helicopters unidentified. When it became evident to Cst. De Haitre and his superiors that I was prepared to put my technical experts with impeccable credentials up against his experts for a meeting at RCMP HQ, they declined my invitation and terminated the case investigation. Cst. De Haitre scheduled one final meeting with me at RCMP HQ in Ottawa to return some investigation exhibits which were loaned to him for his investigation. During that meeting I was permitted to review a letter in the file from an individual at another Canadian Government Agency. The letter detailed the author's expertise and indicated that based on several points (which will be addressed in this report) he concluded that the object in the Guardian video was a Sikorsky S-76 helicopter. The specifics cited from the Guardian video suggesting a helicopter include a presumed relationship between the rapidly strobing blue light on top of the craft which reflects off a curved surface and the masthead light which is a white light shinning "up" through the control rods at the rotor assembly on a helicopter. This is a ludicrous assumption that is easily refuted as the premise for the explanation of the object depicted in the video. The first problem with the hypothesis exists in the RCMP concession that the rotor assembly is operating at 360 to 400 RPM. Any rotation of the rotor assembly would visibly affect the pyrotechnics smoke which is drifting toward the object at 7 to 11 knots, which incidentally matches the meteorological report for the date and time period. No such effect is visible on the video tape. Another issue associated with the helicopter hypothesis and the rotation of the rotor assembly involves the analysis of the audio track from the Guardian videotape. The RCMP investigation revealed that a sound could be heard on the tape that is consistent with the sound of rotating chopper blades. I retained the services of an acoustical physicist to conduct an audio analysis. One of several steps involved in the analysis required dubbing the audio track from the Guardian videotape onto a digital audio tape recording (DAT). The sound attributed to the helicopter hypothesis was not on the DAT and therefore it could only be attributed to video noise associated with the bright burst of light coming from the blue strobe. The video noise need not be a product of the audio track in order to be audible. Frame by from analysis of the Guardian videotape refutes another factor in the masthead light issue in the helicopter scenario. In order to account for the 7-8 Hz oscillation frequency of the flashing "blue" (white shows up white on video, never blue) strobe light in the video, RCMP analysts concluded that the rotor assembly would need to operate at 360-400 RPM. With the masthead light turned on, the control rods might give the impression of a strobe effect. There are several problems inherent with this theory. The masthead light would have to be of tremendous luminosity in order to match the video image and the control rods not matter how thick could not totally blank out the scatter effect of the constantly burning light. And there is nothing to account for the reflection of the strobe on the lower surface are of the craft. RCMP declined a suggested demonstration with a Sikorsky S-76 helicopter. The Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation reviewed the Guardian video materials and could find no one who could agree with the RCMP interpretation. SUMMARY Clearly RCMP would have been better off concluding that the object in the Guardian video was a model constructed for an AT&T Corporation advertising campaign. At least that hypothesis had some eyebrow raising coincidences that proved difficult to accept. Perhaps they were on the right track in looking in the direction of Sikorsky. After all, the Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation was named as a U.S. defense contractor researching electro-gravitics disc programs in the 1950's according to Wright-Patterson AFB Technical Library documents. Maybe the object in the Guardian video was in a new kind of helicopter, without the rotor and blade assembly. Perhaps a touch of professional protocol might be advisedly exercised by Mr. Leblanc regarding his commentary following his publishing of the RCMP report. He evidently has not done enough research on this case to offer academic conclusions. He certainly did not bother to contact me for comment upon receiving the RCMP report, in fact he didn't bother to send me a copy of his submittal nor alert me to its posting. Every single assertion made by Leblanc is wrong. Comments in the RCMP report that he attributes to me were actually made by the Guardian suspect who has refused even simple methods of proof that he is not Guardian. Is it possible that O.C.I.P.E. is really an organization whose objectives are to debunk UFO cases? Consider the following factual scenario. O.C.I.P.E. collaborated on an investigation involving a report from Guardian regarding a 1989 event which he called a UFO landing in the swamp. The investigation correspondence was published as a crash and probably a "hoax" in Leonard Stringfield's July 1991 Status Report VI. The problem with the assessment is that their investigation located three independent witnesses who triangulated a UFO sighting and other details that matched precisely with the Guardian report. To my knowledge they didn't even bother to spend $12.00 Canadian to obtain dated before and after aerial photos of the area available from Energy and Mines. I have great difficulty giving credence to any individual or organization publishing articles with the title: FINAL WORD. The RCMP investigations report does have some merit in retrospect. They provided a resident with a video camera who recorded a helicopter dive bombing the residence of one of the eye witnesses to the UFO landing reported and videotaped by Guardian. I personally inspected the roof area where shingles were clearly blown off. The fact that the helicopter was attempting to intimidate the witnesses was overshadowed by the fact that DND declined to confirm identification to RCMP. And the revelation by one resident that odd grass formations, ten feet in diameter, have been observed for years is an interesting oddity that seems common in areas of UFO activity. The Guardian videotaped UFO landing investigation has proven to be a very complex endeavor. Confirmation of the landing site with gross physical effects and elemental deposit anomalies, multiple independent eye witness accounts, and meteorological and topographical consistencies all tend to support the analyses and authenticity of the Guardian video. Will we ever know for sure what landed in the fields of West Carleton? Perhaps the answer will never be proven to everyone's satisfaction, but many will go away dazed by the testimony of a Canadian Government Official who claims to have been taken aboard a craft that night in August of 1991 at the site where Guardian filmed his video. The witness passed two lie detector tests administered by a Canadian polygrapher trained by the U.S. military. The story is one of intrigue that involves telepathic dialogue with nonhuman entities and extraordinary identification details of the entities depicted in the Guardian video. Anyone wishing more detailed information on the Guardian Investigation can write to me at the address below. If you would like a videotaped report of the summary of my findings including a complete copy of the Guardian video, send a postal money order in U.S. funds in the amount of $35 (Canadian Orders $40 CPMO) to BoB Oechsler at 136 Oakwood Road, Edgewater, Maryland 21037. Examine the evidence, review the findings and evaluate the analyses before drawing your own conclusions; that is, if one can be reached within our self imposed limits of reality. Cheers ... BoB Oechsler, Investigations Analyst ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BoB Oechsler Investigations Analyst 136 Oakwood Road Ph: (410)-798-1503 Edgewater MD 21037 Fax (410)-956-3570 Biographical Information BOB Oechsler: Pronounced x-ler Former NASA Mission Specialist Goddard Space Flight Center Greenbelt, Maryland Who's Who Listings Who's Who in the East Who's Who in Finance and Industry Who's Who in the World International Book of Honor Author - The Chesapeake Connection Contributing Author: The Gulf Breeze Sightings - Walters Wm. Morrow, New York 1990 Alien Liaison - Good Random Century Ltd., London 1991 The UFO Report 1992 - Edited: Good Sidgwick & Jackson, London 1991 Alien Contact - Good Wm. Morrow, New York 1993 Alien Update - Good Arrow, Random House, London 1993 Lecturer: The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia Speaker : The United States Chamber of Commerce International Television Exposure: NBC - Unsolved Mysteries (Regular Consultant) ABC - America's Best Kept Secrets ABC - News with Science Editor Jules Bergman CBS - UFOs: The Best Evidence Syndicated - Now It Can Be Told BBC - London NTV - Tokyo, Japan RAI - Rome, Italy META - Berlin, Germany Technical Expertise: Photo & Video Analysis Invented process for converting night time Polaroid images into almost daylight conditions for easy analysis. Professional Expertise: Robotics Field Applications Technologies Electro-gravitics Research Radio & Television Broadcasting. Primary Guidance within the U.S Intelligence Community: Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) - Science & Technology U.S. Naval Intelligence - Director, Naval Ops Air Warfare National Security Agency (NSA), Institute of Def. Analysis Executive Branch - Defense Science Board -------------------------------------------------------------------- BoB Oechsler Investigations Analyst 136 Oakwood Road Ph: (410)-798-1503 Edgewater MD 21037 Fax (410)-956-3570 G U A R D I A N C A S E The Guardian Case is simply one of the most important investigations in UFO research. My involvement in the investigation began in February of 1992 with the receipt of a video tape and documents sent by an anonymous individual using only the name Guardian. The video represents a remarkable improvement in the quality of UFO photographed images. It shows an unmistakable three dimensional image of a structured craft with extraordinary luminosity characteristics. Further images on the video have proved to be the first authentic images of alien beings associated with such events. The subsequent field investigation efforts yielded gross physical effects at the landing site which was witnessed by several credible individuals. A Canadian Government official who resides in the area of the landing was taken on-board the craft and claimed to have interacted with the occupants, one of whom was a Chinese man in a black business suit. The witness testimony was subjected to polygraph examination. The results proved positive. This once case has undergone more diversified scientific analysis than any other case in history. This due largely to the abundance of physical evidence found at the site. The case has been popularized with international publicity including segments on NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries" and FOX's "Sightings". We are currently in production involving a documentary on the case to be broadcast during ratings week in February 1994. _____________________________________________________________________ [Also attached were two more pages of order forms for Oechsler's video, magazine and book sales division which I just couldn't justify keying. ]